tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4865764596112100655.post2404215609949160492..comments2023-08-29T08:48:55.919-04:00Comments on Carol Diehl's Art Vent: Out with the old and....Carol Diehlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023589628710711343noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4865764596112100655.post-19373671698396103562009-03-31T22:05:00.000-04:002009-03-31T22:05:00.000-04:00Very cool post. I'll be sure to bookmark your blog...Very cool post. I'll be sure to bookmark your blog.Very cool post. I'll be sure to bookmark your blog.poster printhttp://www.onlineposterprinting.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4865764596112100655.post-12014445843093055242009-02-08T08:00:00.000-05:002009-02-08T08:00:00.000-05:00Great post as always, Carol. You're a thoughtful l...Great post as always, Carol. You're a thoughtful lens into the NYC artworld for those of us who live elsewhere. <BR/><BR/>(Some of your commentary on this one inspired a post from me: http://elizabethbriel.blogspot.com/2009/02/whats-next.html )Ebrielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16896422024671707656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4865764596112100655.post-64304773655059616072009-02-07T20:25:00.000-05:002009-02-07T20:25:00.000-05:00just wanted to share that I have never understood ...just wanted to share that I have never understood the raving over Sherman either... <BR/><BR/>and as an art maker I hate writing statements, who cares what I thought, you (the viewer) will reinterpret it anywaydebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08943411721370422914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4865764596112100655.post-26817043221266542452009-02-07T17:30:00.000-05:002009-02-07T17:30:00.000-05:00You make some good points and I am sure the global...You make some good points and I am sure the global economic meltdown should help resolve your malaise about modern art. Big money has probably had a negative impact the creative process. Artists need to make a living but when money is being thrown around for uninspired work, it is easy for artist to do what people want rather than what inspires them. How many animals did Damien Hirst stick in a tank of formaldehyde? Once, maybe twice, it is art, after that it is just an artist making a living off a feeding frenzy. Looking at some recent art you get the feeling that some artist really don't respect their collectors. Not that I blame them for making a buck but with less money out there, it should refocus where the inspiration comes from.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12213131293368857479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4865764596112100655.post-9689859251730821362009-02-07T14:27:00.000-05:002009-02-07T14:27:00.000-05:00Dear Carol,Sorry you are feeling so poorly about t...Dear Carol,<BR/>Sorry you are feeling so poorly about the art world this winter. Sounds as though you need a real blast of beauty. As you are also a musician, I'm sure you have plenty of resources, but may I suggest: put on a recording of<I> Rosenkavelier</I> and bask in the sublime caterwaul of the last act. Those fabulous harmonies and voice crossings of the three women...<BR/><BR/>I'm with you on the Cindy Sherman. I saw this new work and had also recently seen a whole slew of old ones at a LACMA retro. Her work leaves me cold and sad. To me, the hallmark of great art is generosity (the artists themselves may be self-involved sonsoabitches), but the work has to give something, to make a vital connection with the souls of others, and hers does not. They have an aggravating "look at me quality" (of which the apparent crudenesses figure largely as a stylistic device) but it is a rather leaden brand of social comment which ultimately, bores me silly.<BR/><BR/>You had me falling out of my chair at: " that suggests that because Donovan has figured out a way to make a cube out of metal sewing pins, she’s part of a lineage that includes Donald Judd—with whom she has about as much in common as Santa Claus." Thanks for a good belly-laugh. I wrote a whole lot more, but I'll end up putting it in my blog because it got too rambly for your Comments columnLXVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18396149640519096992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4865764596112100655.post-53175283185415189792009-02-06T18:00:00.000-05:002009-02-06T18:00:00.000-05:00Thank you, Brian, for your comment. For more backg...Thank you, Brian, for your comment. For more background, I'd be delighted if you'd read some of my other posts under the labels "Art rhetoric" and "Artists statements" and then tell me what you think. <BR/><BR/>On the surface, it would seem that more information would be a good thing. However it has increasingly become a stand-in for the art, a justification, a way of pumping it up to give substance to work that is lacking.<BR/><BR/>For visitors to a museum, the wall text becomes the lens through which they view the work. Once you've read the opinion of an "expert", it's hard to see things any other way. I'm heartened to learn from Katharine that the MCA in Denver is taking another approach.<BR/><BR/>I'd like to see a situation where visitors could contribute their own opinions, so they could see how variously a work can be interpreted, and realize that their reaction, however ingenuous, could be valid.<BR/><BR/>I'm for methods of education that encourage people to see for themselves, that increases their awareness. For me, art is about experience, not information.<BR/><BR/>It is the same with the artist's "intention," which is a story that exists outside the work of art and again, is often used to give meaning to work that lacks it. I believe art should be able to stand on its own without such explication.Carol Diehlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023589628710711343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4865764596112100655.post-80753861454592878632009-02-06T13:10:00.000-05:002009-02-06T13:10:00.000-05:00Fairey Use<A HREF="http://www.art-for-a-change.com/Obey/index.htm" REL="nofollow">Fairey Use</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4865764596112100655.post-35754850106038012372009-02-06T12:07:00.000-05:002009-02-06T12:07:00.000-05:00I disagree with your assessment of wall text. I e...I disagree with your assessment of wall text. I enjoy making art, talking about art, and reading about art. Wall text is like bonus material on a DVD: while I can watch the movie without it, the behind-the-scenes footage adds to my experience! Of course a work should have the ability to stand on its own, but anything that can tell me what the artist is inspired by, thinking about, or interested in can only add to the conversation. Your statement that the "artist's intention holds little interest for me" is disappointing!<BR/><BR/>BrianAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4865764596112100655.post-16056560166137288062009-02-06T11:06:00.000-05:002009-02-06T11:06:00.000-05:00I can readily identify with what you are saying. T...I can readily identify with what you are saying. There is so much art being produced today and what is selected to be shown is often overhyped and vapid. The new Museum of Contemporary Art in Denver has abolished wall text and it is very refreshing. It respects the viewer by suggesting that they should come to their own conclusions about what they see and not be told. The artists are asked to suggest or can contribute some books, dvds, and other things to a shelf in the library where you can see what interests them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com